Farnham to Blackwater Walk

Farnham Park, Caesar’s Camp Iron Age Hillfort site, Beacon Hill, Bourley Reservoirs, Gelvert Stream, Fleet Pond, Foxlease Meadows and Hawley Common

History

This is a list of previous times this walk has been done by the club (since Jan 2010). For more recent events (since April 2015), full details are shown.

Date Option Post # Weather
Sun, 27-Oct-24 Farnham to Blackwater: Farnham Park, Caesar’s Camp, Beacon Hill, Bourley Reservoirs, Gelvert Stream, Fleet Pond, Foxlease Meadows and Hawley Common 10 sunny
Sat, 21-May-22 Farnham Park, Caesar’s Camp, Beacon Hill, Bourley Reservoirs, Gelvert Stream, Fleet Pond, Foxlease Meadows, Hawley Common: Farnham to Blackwater 6
Sun, 24-Jul-16 2 – Remote Surrey heaths and woods 5 overcast and humid
Wed, 07-Oct-15 Midweek day Walk - Farnham to Fleet
Sun, 22-Feb-15 a Farnham to Blackwater Walk 2
Sat, 14-Jun-14 Farnham to Blackwater Walk 6
Sat, 30-Nov-13 a Farnham to Blackwater Walk 6
Sat, 29-Dec-12 a Farnham to Blackwater Walk
Sat, 15-Sep-12 Farnham to Blackwater Walk

Sunday 27-Oct-24

Length : 22.5 km (14.0 mi)
Ascent/Descent : 313/330m
Net Walking Time : about 5 hours
Toughness : 5/10

Take the 09.05 Alton train from Waterloo (CJ 09.15, then Wimbledon, Surbiton, Woking etc.), arrives Farnham 10.13.
Return trains are on xx.04 & xx.30 to Paddington (change Reading) and xx.09 & xx.35 to Waterloo (change Guildford).
Buy a return to Blackwater and a single from Woking to Farnham .
The walk crosses Farnham Park to Upper Hale then enters remote MOD land (careful navigation needed) including a steep climb to Caesar’s Camp and equally demanding descent from Beacon Hill, overlooking a network of water channels and reservoirs. After lunch at The Foresters, you follow Gelvert Stream to Fleet Pond, get your feet wet in Foxlease Meadows, dry out over a cuppa watching cricket at the Crown and Cushion and view the boats from the sandy shores of Hawley Lake, before crossing Hawley Common to Blackwater station.
After Upper Hale the walk is largely within or close to MOD land until the outskirts of Blackwater. The area is designated on the OS maps by clear rather than red triangles, signifying managed access subject to the displayed by-laws, as opposed to danger areas. In practice this means that you are free to roam and the paths are clear on the ground, but there are no footpath or bridleway signs. The section through Foxlease Meadows is also not marked and is usually ‘spongy’ underfoot, so a drier alternative is given in the text.
Shorter Walk : Various options, check the webpage or the pdf for details.
Lunch : The Foresters , Church Crookham (11.3 km, food served to 18.00).
Tea: Crown & Cushion , Minley (after 17.3 km).
For a summary, map, gpx/kml files and the walk directions click here. T=swc.160
  • Sun, 27-Oct-24

    After disentangling us from a larger walking group (meetup or similar) on the platform, 9 SWCies started the walk, soon caught up by a 10th walker, who after some questioning turned out to be looking for that other group though. Farnham Park was busy with people in the sunny weather and Upper Hale was a fine burb to walk through. Up into the MOD land of heaths with views, an iron age hillfort site, many fine woods and an 'interesting' descent from Beacon Hill.

    2 turned off the route for early lunch at The Windmill Inn, which made sense as they were only going to walk to Fleet anyway.

    Us 7 others walked on to The Foresters which had no tables inside until 4.30! but plenty of free ones outside.

    We bumped into walker 10 there who had parked at Fleet and walked back along the route. Punters who wanted to have the carvery lunch had to wait to be called up, so we had a long-ish stay but it was all worth it: a very well run establishment.

    On then through more woods and past ponds and lakes to the slightly notorious bit of this route: padlocked gates, no right of ways and water-logged meadows with fallen trees and unclear paths. Only it wasn't bad at all today: most gates were not locked, there was a path most times and the water was just about ok. 1 then went to Fleet.

    Which left Hawley Common to cross and then exit from it quite near the station. 16.35 it was and the trains we had just missed, so to the Mr Bumble pub we went before the next trains back to London (or Fleet).

    A very rewarding route despite much noise from the many A roads, a motorway, Farnborough Airport and a race course. Great for autumn, not too muddy (it's mainly sandy soil after all) and with many fine views.

Saturday 21-May-22

Length: 22.5 km (14.0 mi) [shorter walks possible, see below]
Ascent/Descent: 313/330m
Net Walking Time: 5 hours
Toughness: 5 out of 10
Take the 09.24 Alton train from Waterloo (CJ 09.31, Surbiton 09.42), arrives Farnham 10.25.
Return trains: xx.19 and xx.43 (change at Guildford).
The walk crosses Farnham Park to Upper Hale then enters remote MOD land (careful navigation needed) including a steep climb to Caesar’s Camp and equally demanding descent from Beacon Hill, overlooking a network of water channels and reservoirs. After lunch at The Foresters you follow Gelvert Stream to Fleet Pond, get your feet wet in Foxlease Meadows, dry out over a cuppa watching cricket at the Crown and Cushion and view the boats from the sandy shores of Hawley Lake, before crossing Hawley Common to Blackwater station.
After Upper Hale the walk is largely within or close to MOD land until the outskirts of Blackwater. The area is designated on the OS maps by clear rather than red triangles, signifying managed access subject to the displayed by-laws, as opposed to danger areas. In practice this means that you are free to roam and the paths are clear on the ground, but there are no footpath or bridleway signs. The section through Foxlease Meadows is also not marked and is usually ‘spongy’ underfoot, so a drier alternative is given in the text.

Walk Options : Plenty. See the webpage or pdf for details.

Lunch and Tea: See the webpage or pdf for details.

For summary, route map, height profile, walk directions and gpx/kml files click here . T=swc.160

  • Mon, 16-May-22

    In paragraph 13 the walk route crosses MoD land which was fenced off in 2018. There's a pedestrian gate on Bourley Road where the route enters this land, but if it's locked you'll have to skirt around the training area by heading north-west on the road and going round the edge of Tweseldown Racecourse. The OS map or a GPS device will be helpful.

  • Wed, 25-May-22

    As told to me today on a walk:

    6 on the walk, 2 of those immediately disappearing into Farmham to buy something and they were not seen again, 2 finished in Fleet, 2 followed the gpx (but without the text) to the end. They encountered several padlocked gates along the stretch before and after the motorway (where the route seems to leave right-of-ways). Fine walk, despite that.

Sunday 24-Jul-16

Extra Walk 160 – Farnham to Blackwater
Length: 21 km (13 miles), with shorter options. Toughness: 5/10

10:07 Alton & Basingstoke train from Waterloo (Clapham Jct 10:15, Wimbledon 10:22, etc), arriving Farnham at 11:13. The train divides at Woking and you need to be in the portion for Alton. Buy a day return to Farnham.

As none of the possible end stations are on the Farnham line you'll need to buy an extra ticket on the way back. If you complete the full walk to Blackwater and return via Guildford, buy a single to Ash (a Farnham ticket is valid via Ash & Guildford). If you return from Farnborough or Fleet, buy a single to Brookwood.

Trains go from Blackwater at 36 (or 39) minutes past the hour to Guildford, where you change for a fast service to Waterloo.

This longish walk has mostly been posted in a shorter version finishing at Fleet, but this is a good time of year to try the full walk to Blackwater. After an easy start across Farnham Park you have to cope with a more challenging section across “remote MOD land [with] careful navigation needed”. Just over halfway through the full walk, the recommended lunch pub is the Foresters at Church Crookham; you won't arrive much before 2pm but it's possible to detour to another pub in Ewshot if you want to stop earlier.

After lunch you go through woodland to Fleet Pond, followed by another section across MOD land and past Hawley Lake. The area around Blackwater station isn't blessed with any appealing tea places so you've got a good excuse for a mid-afternoon break at the Crown and Cushion. From this pub you've got just over an hour to go so time your departure carefully for the hourly trains.

You'll need to print the walk directions from the Extra Walk 160 page. There are various options if you want to shorten the walk and/or finish at an alternative station.

NB. As far as I can see the GPS directions on the site only take you as far as Fleet, so I'm sure the webmaster would appreciate it if someone submitted a track for the final sections. T=swc.160
  • Mike
    Wed, 20-Jul-16

    I hope to be on this walk but owing to another commitment I'm not sure if I'll make the train. If necessary I'll catch the next one and put my running shoes on! To echo Sean - the GPS should be reliable up to Fleet BUT please follow the directions (not the GPS) after the trig point on Beacon Hill, as there are some very steep slopes in this area! With any luck there may be village cricket at the Crown and Cushion.

  • Mike (walk author)
    Thu, 21-Jul-16

    Sorry, me again! I may be able to catch up more easily by starting from Aldershot. The routes converge just before Caesar's Camp (which is a nice spot for a break) so if I haven't made contact by then would someone mind giving me a quick call on 017583216430 so I know where you are? Cheers.

  • Fi
    Thu, 21-Jul-16

    am planning on doing the walk so will be happy to call if needed.

  • Sat, 23-Jul-16

    Hey, I want to do this hike tomorrow, I know there are no leaders o this hike, but it's my first week in London, though, so it would be great to know how to recognize one of you.

  • Sat, 23-Jul-16

    Petrichorette: if you haven't already done so, click the 'New Members' button at the top of this page. People always hang around on the platform for a few minutes before setting off on the walk, so if you hold a copy of the instructions and look around you, you're bound to make contact. Recent Sunday walks have attracted 6-12 people so it probably won't be a big group. Hope you enjoy it!

    [There might be some confusion if two or three other walking groups have decided to set off from Farnham station at this time. But then at least you'll have a choice of walks!]

  • Tue, 26-Jul-16

    5 walkers on this in overcast and humid weather, one of which had set off from Fleet station and reverse-walked part of the afternoon route to meet us at the lunch pub. Mixed bag this: tarmac heavy suburban start, interrupted by a nice stretch through Farnham Park. The walk comes alive upon entering the sandy hills and heathland up to Caesar's Camp, with fine views from there and for a stretch along the ridge. To lunch the route meanders through woods, along levadas (water channels) and car wide sandy tracks, quite enchanting this (apart from some road noise at times).

    The Forester is a well-run, pretty pub with tasty food and a nice garden. Just a shame that they automatically add a service charge, even if you order at the bar! (they took it off w/o much ado, though).

    I have to admit that I didn't like the next bit, to the Crown and Cushion: plenty of road crossings and noise, and past the M3 a stretch that - according to the walk author - was supposedly Open Access, but the OS map and the padlocked field gates suggest it isn't (i.e.: we were trespassing).

    We stopped at the Crown & Cushion for refreshments and then strode on through more woods and along a few lakes w/o further trouble. All in all some very good elements but also an overall impression of crowded suburbia.

    Some suggested changes to the text were relayed to the walk author.

    p.s.: the walk post didn't mention that one can return from Blackwater to Paddington (via Reading), shaving off up to an hour for any West Londoner (earlier train with faster connnection to station closer to home). I only realised it when sitting down at the Crown & Cushion, and - yes, you guessed it - those few minutes spent there meant I missed the next Reading train...

Wednesday 07-Oct-15

Farnham to Fleet

Farnham Park, Caesar’s Camp, Beacon Hill, Bourley Reservoirs, Gelvert Stream and Fleet Pond

Book 3* Walk 160

* Online only
Length : 16 km or 10 miles

Toughness : 4 out of 10

Getting there : Catch the 10:00 am train from London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour, changing at Woking for the Farnham train (both trains are currently advertised as arriving/departing platform 5 at Woking)
Clapham Junctioneers should catch the 10:00 am train direct to Farnham (they will be joined by the Waterlusians at Woking)

Meeting point : Farnham Station at 10:55

Tickets : The arrival and departure stations are run by the same company, but the line branches just after Brookwood. So I would suggest you seek advice from the ticket office if time permits, else buy a Cheap day return to Farnham and be prepared to buy a single from Fleet to Brookwood if required. ( Train monitors please edit if you know better! )

Brief Description

You may find full details here and a Kindle download here

Suggested Lunch stops

Possible Tea stops

Fleet Town Centre is about a mile from the station, however there's a Pizza bar nearby at

Map

OS Explorer : 145

Return train times

Trains return from Fleet station at the following times ...

16:40 | 16:54 |17:10 | 17:19 | 17:40 | 17:54 | 18:10 | 18:40 | 18:54

Faster trains are bolded
  • Anonymous
    Wed, 30-Sep-15

    emboldened

  • Mike
    Thu, 01-Oct-15

    Anybody want to continue to Blackwater station for the full walk? - the latter part is complex so never gets scheduled, but a good walk in my biased opinion!

  • Marion
    Thu, 01-Oct-15

    Mike I requested this walk and intend coming as this is excellent territory full of variety.

    It does need some attention to the walk directions as people have got lost even on the early section during previous outings. If you're coming Im sure we should get round a bit quicker than my treck through the forest to Fleet station in the dark and pouring rain so lets keep fingers crossed for dry weather and see how the time goes.

  • Mike
    Thu, 01-Oct-15

    Thanks Marion

    By not doing the detour to Ewshot you save some mileage and the full walk becomes more feasible. As I said last time I've done the walk to Fleet on numerous occasions so I'll probably only bother if there is someone doing the whole walk. (Fleet to Blackwater would make for a good shorter winter walk some time).

  • Marion
    Sat, 03-Oct-15

    Rats- can't attend now as need to go to trade fair at Ally Pally.

  • Mike
    Tue, 06-Oct-15

    Unfortunately I can't now do this walk owing to a regular Weds commitment.

    Do be careful to follow the directions for the steep descent from Beacon Hill (paragraph 12). I'm not sure how accurate the map is on this section (between points 2 and 3 on the map).

  • Anonymous
    Tue, 06-Oct-15

    oh no Mike is not going.. anyone else going with a clue about the route ? otherwise M & manxy pants are dropping out.

  • Marion
    Wed, 14-Oct-15

    This walk was severely delayed due to the incident at Surbiton and cancelled trains all morning plus the power failure on several tube lines. 3 people did attempt the walk and tried to make Blackwater but were still out to well past 7pm. The walk directions were again extremely challenging even with one walker with a GPS but it was agreed that the amazing scenery and variety of remote terrain are worth the effort if enough people with maps and GPS can take part. Hats off to those who attended.