Stonegate Circular walk

Remote, rolling Hills, Burwash for Lunch and Batemans (NT, Rudyard Kipling's home)

History

This is a list of previous times this walk has been done by the club (since Jan 2010). For more recent events (since April 2015), full details are shown.

Date Option Post # Weather
Wed, 12-Jul-23 Stonegate circular 18 bright blustery
Fri, 24-Dec-21 Silent walk 2 calm and overcast
Sat, 17-Jul-21 Stonegate Circular 20 hot sunny
Sat, 21-Sep-19 Stonegate Circular 22 balmy sunny
Sun, 16-Jun-19 A Walk on the Wealdside – A Sunday Stonegate Circular (Clockwise or Anti-clockwise) 6 heavyish shower
Sun, 18-Mar-18 Sussex Weald - Stonegate Circular 3 very cold with some snow
Sat, 08-Apr-17 Stonegate Circular 39 gorgeous sunshine
Fri, 23-Dec-16 d Day walk 4
Sat, 04-Jun-16 Third Walk 12 dry warm and humid
Sun, 21-Jun-15 Sunday 1st Walk – the Sussex Weald and Bateman's 15 sunny with slight breeze
Sun, 05-Oct-14 Stonegate Circular 12
Sat, 08-Jun-13 Stonegate Circular 30
Sat, 02-Feb-13 Stonegate Circular 26
Sat, 08-Sep-12 Stonegate Circular
Sun, 28-Aug-11 Stonegate Circular
Sat, 03-Oct-09 Stonegate Circular
Sat, 21-Feb-09 Stonegate Circular
Sun, 05-Oct-08 Stonegate Circular
Sat, 19-Apr-08 Stonegate Circular
Sat, 27-Oct-07 Stonegate Circular
Sun, 21-Oct-07 Stonegate Circular
Sat, 28-Jul-07 Stonegate Circular
Wed, 12-Jul-23 : Stonegate circular 18
Wanderer
Wanderer

Length: 15.5 km (9.6 miles)

Difficulty:3 out of 10

Trains: 10.08 from Charing Cross, 10.11 Waterloo East, 10.19 London Bridge, arriving Stonegate 11,22

Return trains from Stonegate run hourly: 15.17, 16.15, 17.18, 18.17

This walk passes over gentle hills and into tranquil valleys, through classic English wood and pastureland. Its attractions include the unspoiled village of Burwash for lunch, and Bateman's, the one time rural retreat of Rudyard Kipling.

Lunch: The suggested lunchtime stop is the Rose and Crown (tel 01435 882600) Burwash, 6km from the start of the walk, which serves pub food from 12 to 2pm - 160 metres west down the High Street from the church. Alternatively you could try The Bear Inn (tel 01435 882260), 90 metres further west.

A later lunch or early tea stop could be had at the Wheel Inn ( 01435 408580) 10km into the walk. Food is served 12 - 3pm. There is no further tea stop on the walk.

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  • Thu, 13-Jul-23

    18 on a bright blustery day. Clouds scudded across the sky but did not rain on us.There was plenty of sunshine and it was good to have woods and shaded paths to keep us cool. There were lots of unmown fields and dense vegetation on paths but those wearing shorts had only a few minor scratches at the end. Most picnicked in the churchyard in Burwash. Four dined at the Rose and Crown and were joined by others for drinks. They subsequently stopped at the Wheel for a drink as it too was a Harvey's pub and had to be visited. We met a woman who told us that Burwash is a dark sky area and glow worms can be seen at night. One or possibly two visited Batemans. Seven hurried on and caught the 16.17 train. Eight caught the 17.18.

Fri, 24-Dec-21 : Silent walk 2
DAC
DAC
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  • Wed, 22-Dec-21

    Intend going.

  • Mon, 27-Dec-21

    A really enjoyable walk. We (2) reached the Rose & Crown just before noon for a leisurely Christmas lunch. Arrived at Robertsbridge around 4pm accompanied by a slight drizzle (the weather having been calm and overcast most of the day) to enjoy a couple of Christmas drinks before our journey back to London. An excellent start to the Christmas and New Year break.

Sat, 17-Jul-21 : Stonegate Circular 20
PeteG
PeteG
Stonegate Circular T=2.19
Length: 15.5 km (9.6 miles) 4 hours 45mins, or long walk of 29.5km (18.3 miles)
Requested by Brian, this walk passes over gentle hills and into tranquil valleys, through classic English wood and pastureland, its attractions include the unspoiled village of Burwash for lunch, and Bateman's, the one time rural retreat of Rudyard Kipling. For those venturing on the long walk section after lunch at Burwash Common, this could with some justification be described as a wilderness walk.
Covid-19 This is an informal walk for up to thirty people. For presumably the last time, please help Brian by registering on Eventbrite here.
Trains: Take the 1005 Hastings train from Charing Cross arriving 1126. (There is also a 1012 from Victoria, which involves a 4 minute change at Sevenoaks). Return trains are xx23
Lunch: The Rose and Crown 6km from the start of the walk, which serves pub food from 12 to 2.30pm - 160 metres west down the High Street from the church. or The Bear Inn 90 metres further west.
Tea: There is nothing at Stonegate station. The Wheel Inn Burwash Weald, 10km from the start of the walk
  • Anonymous
    Thu, 15-Jul-21

    It looks like the Wheel Inn at Burwash Weald has gone and got itself a new address ... https://www.thewheelinnburwash.org/

  • Anonymous
    Fri, 16-Jul-21

    Beware train cancellations due to staff being pinged by the NHS app. It happened quite a lot today, Friday.

  • Anonymous
    Sat, 17-Jul-21

    10:05 from Charing X (10:14 at London Bridge) is still scheduled (as of 08:40) fingers crossed :-)

  • Sat, 17-Jul-21

    3 of us decided to go to Robertsbridge from Burwash after lunch as we knew that we could get a drink there whilst waiting for the train. One train an hour.

    Our route was planned to be 6 km but allowing for getting lost let us say 7km

    The extra km meant that two of us filled our boots when crossing a stream, TWICE, and the third person in his size 10 hobnail boots had no trouble at all and it was he who said 'It isn't deep, you will have no trouble at all on this' and on the second crossing 'This one is even shallower'

    What happened to once bitten twice shy?

    We were slower than an M Tigers pace as it took 2hours 50 minutes to do the 6k. Getting old

    But the swift drink in the pub at the station was most worthwhile

    We passed a sculpture of Rudyard Kipling sitting on a bench at some point and someone had left a note saying 'Time you got your clothes pressed mate'. It was a very rumpled-looking suit.

    Another wag had put a subsequent note saying 'And time you cast off your self-righteous racism mate'

    Bugger I should have taken a pic

  • Sun, 18-Jul-21

    20 on a hot sunny day. An enjoyable walk. Largely firm underfoot, with occasional patches of quickmud to trap the unwary. As well as its flurry of variants, this walk seems to undergo frequent route changes. Most recently due to work on the railway. It didn’t help that, after the disembodied door and leg, I opted to follow a group of GPS-ers who ‘knew where they were going’. They didn’t. Would you believe we entered Burwash through the opposite end of town? However, the scenery was still beautiful so I have decided not to lodge an official complaint. We managed to find the Rose and Crown alright, though. There, the intended one pint of cider quickly turned into two. Fellow-imbibers will attest this was entirely due to the staff’s hard-sell techniques and not any proclivity on my part. Concerns this would have a deleterious effect on the afternoon’s navigation were unfounded. If anything, it improved.

    Although I made a detour after lunch for the view from the churchyard, and the smugglers graves, I too neglected to take a pic of the Kipling statue. I do blame the cider for that.

    In the afternoon , what appeared to be another disembodied sculpture turned out to be two of our number asleep in the grass. At least I think they were asleep.

    And so on to Stonegate, without incident, having accidentally, and perhaps fortuitously, avoided the Wheel . (I heard later of one who spent longer than intended there). I took the “northeast route” to avoid any more of the muddy bridleway. It works fine.

  • Sun, 18-Jul-21

    Just to add to Mr T's missive, it was indeed a delightful day out under a cloudless sky with a welcome waft of air now and again. Many thanks to Brian for deputising and providing us all with some local knowledge at the start of the walk.

    During the morning the three back "markers" dallied taking photo opportunities at the newly replaced surreal door and leg before crossing the railway line and slipping through a field of golden corn. Concern at Mr T's undone shoelace and a "technical" discussion on "non-relational databases" meant the GPSers took their eyes off the route track and got yellow cards for deviation. However the group seamlessly (well there was a bit of mud involved) merged into the "green" route allowing them to savour the delights of Burwash High Street, but as Mr. T. alludes, loosing VDT (valuable drinking time).

    Many assembled at St. Bartholemew's Church Yard for a picnic shielded from the sun by a well placed yew tree. Here, two senior walkers planned to visit Batemans and then take a cab back to Stonegate. But with no cabs on offer untill 4pm, they switched to plan "B", a hastily devised 7km shortened stroll to Robertsbridge (in case the train service went pear shaped). This turned out to traverse some stunning meadow and woodland (although there was some walking on quiet country lanes). The Ostrich (adjacent to Robertsbridge railway station) was open as if in a 1980's time-warp and provided thirst quenchers, before they caught the delayed 5:14 back to the Great Yen (don't get me started on the train journey!)

  • Mon, 19-Jul-21

    Tied laces are so “last-year”

Sat, 21-Sep-19 : Stonegate Circular 22
HollieB
HollieB
9,6 miles/15.5km

A walk in a quiet part of the Weald, passing by Rudyard Kipling's former rural retreat at Bateman's.

Trains: Take the 10:15 Hastings service from Charing Cross (10:24 London Bridge), arriving at Stonegate at 11;26. Return trains from Stonegate at xx23/53.

Lunch: The Rose and Crown, Burwash (01435 882600), 160m down the High Street from the church. A short way further on is The Bear Inn (01435 882540).

The Wheel Inn at Burwash Weald is a possible mid-afternoon stop. Near the end of the walk you can detour to a farm shop for a cold drink.

Click here for full details and walk directions
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  • Sun, 22-Sep-19

    22 on a balmy sunny day. Cinderella weather - not too hot, not too cold. There was another group too, walking independent of us. The walk was quite pretty. Plenty of big trees. The directions could maybe do with a revamp. There was scratching of heads in places. And it wasn’t nits. Mr Tiger can’t comment, he was trying to follow the book, and not very successfully, though this may have been due to keeping up with the others for once. The Rose and Crown was fine.

CW2: Stonegate Circular (standard or in reverse) T=2.19

Distance:
Long: 18.3 Miles or 29.5 km for those more metrically minded (with option to reduce to about 15 Miles or 24 km if done in reverse)
Standard: 9.6 Miles or 15.5 km for those more metrically minded (with short cuts available – reducing walk to 6.5 Miles or 10 km)

Difficulty: 3 out of 10, I reckon a bit more for the long option

Transport: Take the 9:55 AM Hastings train from London Charing Cross (10:04 London Bridge) to Stonegate, arriving 11:06. Return trains from Stonegate are at 23 minutes past the hour.

This fine walk through the undulating high Weald has not been done in some time and I think the long version has only been attempted once…..So, I propose to give it another outing with a twist….For those interested explorers, I would suggest, we undertake the long option in reverse . The reason for going in reverse is three-fold: (i) there are more options to shorten the route in reverse (for example, in Burwash Weald, you could simply pick up the main walk instructions to Stonegate – making for a walk of about 15 miles/24 km); (ii) Burwash offers a good opportunity for afternoon refreshments before the last push into the Sahara-dry environs of Stonegate (and offers a longer or shorter route to better coordinate with the train times) and (iii) since the route seems to have only been done once by about 5 people, would be nice for the SWC to explore it again.

Of course, for those interested in a more modest outing, the standard clockwise option is a lovely route through the undulating Weald passing by Bateman's (Rudyard Kipling's former home). More information about the walk and the various routes can be found here. For those planning on the long version in reverse, also bring a map print-out or GPX file.

Lunch: It is Father's Day, pubs will be packed, bring a picnic (virtually anywhere along the route is a fine spot – according to the walk intro page). This aside, there are two pubs in Burwash and one in Burwash Weald. Those doing the standard clockwise route, may be lucky enough to squeeze into one in Burwash …..For those going in reverse, the Wheel Inn in Burwash Weald is the first point of refreshment (not sure of status, as unable to reach them (even website) – but, according to trip advisor, someone had a nice meal there last week).

Tea: For the standard clockwise route, The Wheel Inn in Burwash Weald (see caveat above) and for those going in reverse, either of the pubs in Burwash. There are no amenities at or anywhere near Stonegate Station, plan accordingly….

Enjoy the walk!

  • Anonymous
    Sat, 15-Jun-19

    I am interested in the main, shorter walk if anyone else is.

    ~Karen

  • Anonymous
    Sat, 15-Jun-19

    https://www.facebook.com/wheelinnburwash/

  • Mon, 17-Jun-19

    5 alighted from the train to be met by one driver plus a dog, making for 6 huddling in a shelter on the train platform during a heavyish shower discussing the options for the day. This ended up being a girls day out with one opting for the traditional route and 5 donning their Dora the Explorer caps to tackle the extension route in reverse....and, boy, was it an adventure...

    As it happens, this wild and wonderfully weird corner of the weald is not only seldom visited by the SWC -- but seemingly rarely visited AT ALL. We saw almost no one en route and most of the paths were hardly discernible with little or no obvious markings (in fact, in one place, we had to improvise, as the footpath seems to have vanished)..needless to say, this made for some challenging navigation at times....

    But, we were amply rewarded for our efforts....Within the first hour, we spotted a group deer in Wadhurst Park...including a white one (a sign of things to come, perhaps). This was the first of about 7 (yes, seven) deer sightings along the route...Next came the gorgeous exotic curly-haired pigs (admittedly in a garden we had inadvertently wandered into) -- one of the party ventured a bit too close and received a good nip from one of the pigs....fortunately, the finger remained intact...

    Back on piste (after climbing a gate), another small group or two of deer were spotted in the woods; then out on a hillside enjoying the view we came across a largish herd of longhorn cattle (with rather long horns) that we carefully skirted before safely enjoying our picnics in the next field also with a great view...

    After lunch, a few more deer sightings; then, of course, the white squirrel (yes, white) -- just what you would expect to see climbing a tree in the weald....A bit further on, we were pulled off-piste watching a small group of what appeared to be muntjac deer in a clearing, including a very little one frolicking in the long grass....adorable...Regaining the route (after climbing one gate and one fence), we encountered a few more small groups of deer; then, in the last valley before starting the ascent to Burwash Weald, we came across a rather large herd of deer grazing in long grass, as they moved on away from us, a small fawn came into view who bounced and sprung in the most acrobatic manner to catch-up with the rest of the herd....a really magical moment....

    We eventually did arrive in Burwash Weald about 17:15 where one stalwart opted to head straight to the station for the 18:23; whereas the other 4 stopped for various refreshing drinks in the garden of The Wheel pub. We set off at 17:45 and easily made the 19:23, enjoying a leisurely evening stroll in, by now, sunny conditions ....spotting some bunnies and a bonafide country fox along the way...

    Quite a day out, I think all agreed they got their money's worth out of this SWC outing.....I would certainly recommend this twist on the Stonegate Circular (lovely views and vistas through out) and would happily do it again -- but it would probably be better to take the 8:55 train to give yourself more time to enjoy the immense wildlife encountered in this wild corner of the weald....

Chris L
Chris L
Stonegate Circular
Length: 15.5km (9.6 miles) Toughness: 3/10

09:55 Hastings train from Charing Cross (London Bridge 10:04, Orpington 10:20) arriving Stonegate at 11:07.

Return trains are at xx:23 (journey time 73 mins).

This walk in the Sussex Weald traverses rolling hills, quiet valleys, woods and pastureland. It arrives in the unspoiled village of Burwash for lunch and then passes Bateman’s, Rudyard Kipling’s former home, now a National Trust property.

Options for shortening or lengthening the walk are described in the directions.

The walk directions describe several possible places for lunch in Burwash, including the Rose and Crown (tel 01435 882600).

You will need to download the walk directions.

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  • Anonymous
    Sat, 17-Mar-18

    Going.

  • Anonymous
    Sun, 18-Mar-18

    3 walkers today in sub zero winds with grey skies and light snow in the afternoon. This was the muddiest walk I've ever been on, and I've got the boots to prove it.Even the green pasture on the hilltops was completely sodden and felt like a wet sponge.

    In two different large fields, an over population of horses being kept outdoors all winter, has reduced the land to a quagmire, forcing us out on the nearest road.

    A large but unsociable group of younger walkers stormed off the train in front of us, took a wrong turning after 200m, and then followed us all the way to lunch.

    We eat sandwiches in the porch of Burwash church, then sped onwards to catch the 1623 home. Joe.

  • Anonymous
    Mon, 19-Mar-18

    3 very cold with some snow

Sat, 08-Apr-17 : Stonegate Circular 39
HollieB
HollieB
Stonegate Circular - Book 2 Walk 19
9,6 miles/15.5km

A springtime walk in a quiet part of the Weald, passing by Rudyard Kipling's former rural retreat at Bateman's.

Trains: Take the 10:15 Hastings service from Charing Cross, arriving at Stonegate at 11;26. Return trains from Stonegate at xx23/53.

Lunch: The Rose and Crown, Burwash, 01435 882600, 160m down the High Street from the church. A short way further on is The Bear Inn, 01435 882540.

The Wheel Inn at Burwash Weald is a possible mid-afternoon stop. There is nothing near the station.

Click here for full details and walk directions

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  • Wed, 05-Apr-17

    At the risk of seeing "splittist" I plan to do the morning of this walk, the switch to the afternoon of SWC Walk 112 (Stonegate to Robertsbridge) to walk to Robertsbridge.

    If anyone wants to join me, they are welcome. This afternoon route is very pretty at this time of year - it is a favourite April walk of mine - and is only marginally longer than the Stonegate circular at 16.4km/10.2 miles. However, it is not any part of my agenda to dissuade anyone from the Stonegate ending, which is also very nice.

    If you want to join me, buy a day return to Robertsbridge: directions here

    https://www.walkingclub.org.uk/walk/stonegate-to-robertsbridge/SWC_Walk_112_Stonegate_to_Robertsbridge.pdf

    (You still need the book 2 directions for the morning route, as the morning route of SWC 112 is a bit different)

  • Fri, 07-Apr-17

    Departs 10:23 from London Bridge if that suits better

  • Sat, 08-Apr-17

    39 on this walk - a gorgeous day out on a day of gorgeous sunshine . With spring bursting out all over, bright green leaves, lambs In the field and pure blue skies, what greater happiness could one ask for?

    At least a dozen sandwichers enjoyed a heartstopping view over the valley at Burwash. The rest of us went to the Rose and Crown (sitting outside, of course). They grumbled a bit about the influx but in truth were not hugely busy otherwise and produced dishes at a brisk rate.

    After lunch many opted to go on to Robertsbridge. Some may have gone to Batemans. The nine of us in the rear dawdled shamelessly looking at flowers and trees. There were early purple orchids and wild cherry blossom and cuckoo flower and primroses. Lots and lots orange tip butterflies and some holly blues too. Towards the end of the walk there was a bluebell wood that had definitely reached the "blue fuzz" stage. Blackbirds and chaffinches and chiffchaffs and nuthatches sang.

    Unlike many pubs, the Ostrich in Robertsbridge produced tea in mugs speedily and had nice beer. Then a dozy golden train ride home, wondering if it had all been just a dream.

  • Anonymous
    Sun, 09-Apr-17

    39

Fri, 23-Dec-16 : Day walk 4
DAC
DAC
CW2 Walk 19 - Stonegate Circular variation
Length: 10 km (6.2 miles). Toughness: 1/10
Standard walk option: 15.5km (9.6 miles)
Catch the 10:15 from Charing Cross (Waterloo East: 10:18, London Bridge 10:23) arrives Stonegate 11:26.
Return from Stonegate 15:23 16:18 16:51 17:17 17:52....

This walk uses a shorter morning section into Burwash, thereafter it is the standard Stonegate Circular walk via Burwash Weald to Stonegate station. As well as the main walk directions here, you'll also need to download the Stonegate Options pdf file.

Pages required:
From the TOCW2_Walk_19_Stonegate_Options.pdf file print pages 1-2 inc. for the walk into Burwash.
From the TOCW2_Walk_19_Stonegate_Circular.pdf file print pages 1, 4-7 inc. for the walk from Burwash via Burwash Weald back to Stonegate station.

I've posted this walk as I need to check missed out sections from the walk check carried out earlier this year on Sat 4th June. As the morning section of this variation is fairly short it may be preferable to stop for lunch at the Wheel Inn, Burwash Weald, rather than in Burwash. Of course any others coming on this walk may prefer to take the standard longer 15.5km route. (In the afternoon after Burwash Weald I want to check a small section of the long walk out from Burwash Weald that has possibly changed since June, so I will probably end up walking 14 - 15km.)

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  • Mon, 19-Dec-16

    Intend going.

  • Anonymous
    Tue, 20-Dec-16

    might do this

  • Anonymous
    Thu, 22-Dec-16

    is anyone doing this walk please?

  • Fri, 23-Dec-16

    Yes intend going and will will do the the standard route back to Stonegate total 10 km 6.2 miles

  • Fri, 23-Dec-16

    Sorry please ignore last post, grandchild minding crisis so not able to join you today

  • Wed, 28-Dec-16

    4 people on this walk through pretty countryside in a part of Sussex that has a remote feel. We didn't catch up with our walk checker after our lunch time split though I think the remaining three ended up doing the main walk, about 9 miles. Lunch in the Rose and Crown was very pleasant, a lovely old pub and a good menu. We skirted by Batemans which looked particularly beautiful in the winter air.

  • Anonymous
    Wed, 28-Dec-16

    4

Sat, 04-Jun-16 : Third Walk 12
DAC
DAC
CW2 Walk 19 - Stonegate Circular
Length: 15.5 km (9.6 miles). Long walk option: 29.5km (18.3 miles) Toughness: 3/10

Catch the 10:15 from Charing Cross (Waterloo East: 10:18 - does not stop at London Bridge) arrives Stonegate 11:26.

Return from Stonegate xx:23 17:53 18:23 18:53 xx:23 until 22:23
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  • Tue, 31-May-16

    Intend going on the long walk option (Lunch at The Wheel Inn, Burwash Weald.)

  • Thu, 02-Jun-16

    The shorter one for me, I think.

  • Marion
    Fri, 03-Jun-16

    Shorter option will be fine for me unless i get called in to work

  • Sat, 04-Jun-16

    12 embarked on this High Weald excursion in dry warm and humid conditions. The group split in Burwash on account of the majority doing 'just' the normal distance and lunching there, while 5 continued to Burwash Weald for lunch. Beautiful outing with plenty of wide wooded valleys, fantastic vistas, endless wildflower meadows and hardly a soul in sight. Indeed on the extension from the lunch pub, all 19 km of it, we didn't meet a single person! Hard work as well on account of knee high grass in those lovely meadows, and slippery paths in the many woods. Characterful woods at that. Lots of streams as well. Perfect mix. 20.23 train for the extenders.

  • Marion
    Wed, 15-Jun-16

    The shorter walk walkers enjoyed an excellent lunch in the pub garden in warm conditions. Just as well as the ceiling around the bar collapsed due to workmen installing a wardrobe in the bedroom above. The afternoon was really fine apart from the Bridleway section which was ankle deep in liquid mud. DAC has confirmed that there is an alternative which he hopes to replace this section for future publication.

Book 2 Walk 19 Stonegate Circular
15.5km (9.6m); toughness 3/10
Train: London Charing Cross 09.55 (Waterloo East 09.58, Orpington 10.19) arrives Stonegate 11.07
Return trains to London Charing Cross at xx:23
A lovely walk over gentle hills and through tranquil valleys in the East Sussex Weald. There are options to shorten and extend the walk – quite considerably if you fancy doing 18 or 20 miles.
For further information about the walk and its refreshment options plus the link to full pdf walk instructions (you do not need Book 2 for this walk) please click here
  • Ian T
    Sun, 21-Jun-15

    15 for this walk, with another 2 joining us for lunch. sunny with slight breeze . Dry underfoot with only the slightest hint of mud in what would have been the worstest stretches. Some ate at the Rose and Crown. Cant tell you how it was. I don’t think I saw any food pass anyone’s lips. I’m a bit slow, see. The Bell is still shut. As is the later Wheel, still mentioned as a tea stop in the walk notes. No sign of it reopening though the “Under refurbishment” sign is now replaced by a “To Let” sign. Posters should note that, with the possible exception of a farm shop near the station, there are no opportunities for refreshment after Burwash. I think this was a disappointment to some. Plenty of wild flowers to delight the eye. 3 visited Batemans and were never seen again (spooky music).